Here is how we could proceed.
1. We need to identify groups that have conventions serve a specific
disability group. ... Like my own Council of Citizens with Low Vision
International or the California Council of Citizens with Low Vision.
2. Contact the Convention coordinators and secure a presentation slot.
3. We can arrange for a notice to be sent out to the relevant members
notifying them of our intention to do user testing.
1. Identify the success criteria we would need to test for each group.
2. Develop test materials that members of the target group can use.
3. Create assessment content.
4. Review the content to determine if it appropriate for human participants.
5. Assemble the software and hardware needed to perform human testing at a
conference setting.
6. Do onsite testing.
This would take money. The idea of doing it at conferences might address a
perennial problem of much testing: getting sufficient sample size. So I
think a fund raising phase would be in order.
I think it is a proposal worth considering.
Post by ALAN SMITHWayne,
All good points.
Iâd love to see how this works out.
Iâm sure you realize that the majority of those that depend on this work
are not technical.
It is their input and viewpoints that need to be considered to help
validate if we are on the right track.
Best.
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*Sent: *Friday, March 2, 2018 6:12 PM
*Subject: *Re: WCAG needs to do this - Any user testing of WCAG 2.1 at
CSUN
Hello All,
Having done a lot of user testing through our Center for Usability Design
and Accessibility, I think that planning a test for CSUN at this time would
not be productive. It takes real planning to get a decent sample for
statistical analysis. We don't need a non-scientific survey from users.
Also, there is a real technology gap between us and many end users at CSUN.
Recently I sent a description of the new WCAG additions to the California
Citizens with Low Vision (about 90 members). The success criteria are so
precise and technical that explaining just one takes a lot of teaching for
these end users. It is important to not that members of the CCLV are tech
savvy. At CSUN we get end users with no computer or assistive technology
skills, and a lot of them. Reflow is a good example. Explaining 320px
instead of a magnification factor is very tricky. I don't believe our
support materials are sufficient for end users yet.
I would suggest setting things up with advocacy groups conferences like
the annual Meetings of the NFB or ACB. CCLV is a part of ACB. We could set
up an afternoon session and a table for testing.
For low vision the California Group is very active, they meet in October.
I sure the COGA people could identify good venus for testing as well.
John,
I completely understand the logistics and challenges of setting this up.
Iâm a tenacious, make it happen leader who is passionate for the disabled.
What discomfort and challenges we may face in assisting them with our work
and talents is nothing compared to what many of them experience 24/7 day
and night.
1. This is perhaps the greatest opportunity to have the audience for
which WCAG is intended for be able to - and in person - participate and
give input and feedback.
1. The opportunity to set this up months ago was missed.
1. This is the WCAG, the body that sets up the guidelines and
international standards for most of what CSUN topics are based on.
1. Tell CSUN that: we see great value in this type of effort, we
missed the opportunity to plan for it, how can we get it set up for the
sake of the international disabled community.
1. I am able to assist in any way needed.
Alan Smith
*Sent: *Thursday, February 22, 2018 9:24 AM
*Subject: *Re: Any user testing of WCAG 2.1 at CSUN
I had not thought about the how. I figured it was something that should
have been planned by WCAG.
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The big problem. Planning for CSUN starts (started) at least 6 months ago,
and even as a W3C Working Group we started planning for our Face-to-Face
meetings at CSUN back before Christmas. Finding a location to do this kind
of user-testing is a bit of a logistics problem, as often spaces in advance
of, or post-CSUN are hard to come by, and during the event CSUN tends to
take over much if not all of the available space. Setting up a "testing
lab" at this short juncture would likely fail, even though it is a good
idea.
As you noted, there will likely be a number of presentations at CSUN
focused on the new SC in WCAG 2.1, and we can still have hallway chats and
other social activities to discuss them with end-users in attendance. It
would have been a great idea, but we should have started planning for it in
October...
JF
Alastair,
I appreciate your reply.
I thought: CSUN is a captive audience and this would be a great way to
have WCAG get out into the real world with real users and in person present
what is planned and find out if it will actually work for real users with
diabilities.
I had not thought about the howt. I figured it was something that should
have been planned by WCAG.
After I sent this query originally to another email list, I did find that
David MacDonald is doing something like this with a presentation on
Wednesday at 9:00 am.
Best.
Alan Smith
*Sent: *Thursday, February 22, 2018 8:17 AM
*Subject: *Re: Any user testing of WCAG 2.1 at CSUN
Hi Alan,
Post by ALAN SMITHis there any effort to have actual users with disabilities who may be
attending CSUN queried on whether the new SCs in WCAG 2.1 will in fact meet
the needs of those they are intended for?
I suspect that no site will âmeet the needsâ of everyone, it would be a
case of how much does it improve the access & experience for people with
particular needs.
1. Research into what change the success criteria have made to
websites, and what difference that makes to people (difficult before sites
start updating to meet them).
2. Demos of what impact the changes based on meeting the success
criteria have.
The second approach (demos) is a lot easier to do, in revising our site I
could probably provide examples for reflow & content-on-hover because those
were two new issues that we are changing the site in order to meet the new
SC.
If you mean are we trying to do the research approach, thatâs a lot of
prep to find particular sites with issues affected by 2.1-only criteria⊠it
would be easier after sites start trying to meet it.
-Alastair
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